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  The Worst Year to be Alive? Answer: Most likely to be 536 CE

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i was a witness, since the early 1950's, to the relentless claims of the wt society (then synonymous with jws) that this was the worst of times to be alive.

  if i had been more questioning and less accepting, i would never have become a shill for these apologists pf the murderous yhwh and his accomplice jesus,.

  so how interesting to see today an opinion in science journal that:- .

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  Bungi Bill

  Very interesting - thanks for posting.
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  Brexit Rollercoaster Grinding to a Halt

  by The Fall Guy in

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  uk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.

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  regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..

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  Bungi Bill

  Coming from a country that was adversely affected by Britain's entry into the European Community, I find this whole matter more than a little ironic. I well recall Britain's decade-long battle to gain entry - contrasted now with the stampede to separate itself from Europe.

  Yeh, orright, I know it used to be called the EEC, whereas it is now the EU. But still, I cannot but comment on the bloody irony of it all!
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  The Biggest Issue Is Not Guns—It Is Mental Health!

  by minimus in

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  crazy people shoot up places and kill people.

  take away guns and they will find knives, poison, bombs , etc.. seriously, there are a lot of mentally unhealthy people!

  they need professional long term help..

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  Bungi Bill

  I read somewhere that people who suffer from mental health problems are statistically more likely to be the victims of violent crime than the perpetrators.

  When it comes to mass shootings, I am not so sure. In nearly all the ones I am familiar with (which are all too many, sad to say!), the perpetrator did have serious mental health issues. Allow somebody with mental health problems easy access to firearms and you are asking for trouble.
  
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Bungi Bill

  If you include in the "paranormal" such things as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), Ball Lightning and the Min-Min lights of Outback Australia, then perhaps the paranormal is not necessarily "magic".

  Similarly, the fact that such phenomena defy the currently understood laws of physics does not necessarily prove that these are bull$h#t, either.

  Several years ago, while attending a seminar on lightning protection, I had opportunity to ask a university lecturer what exactly ball lightning was. His answer, an "unexplained phenomenon that has been puzzling researchers for centuries." Furthermore, until about 100 years ago, all reportings of ball lightning were treated as mere bull$h#t. Then, however, somebody managed to capture ball lightning on a movie camera. After that, researchers had to treat this phenomenon seriously. Some characteristics of ball lightning are uncanny. For example, its ability to come through a closed door without causing any damage has been observed repeatedly (although the one and only example of ball lightning that I observed caused widespread destruction in an adjacent electricity substation, after missing our house by less than 100 metres).

  While many UFO sightings have been either inconclusive or disproven , you do have instances such as the Kaikoura sightings in New Zealand during the time period December 1978 - February 1979. Night after night, the Air New Zealand Wellington - Christchurch cargo flight observed these unidentified objects. Then a TV crew from Australia's Channel 10 accompanied one Wellington to Christchurch flight. Not only did both the TV crew (including veteran TV reporter Quentin Fogarty) and the aircraft's flight crew see this UFO following their aircraft, but it was also recorded on 16 mm movie film . Further, while that was going on, this object (described by Quentin Fogarty as "looking like a flying saucer") was being simultaneously sighted on no less than three different sets of radar: that on board the Argosy aircraft itself, plus the Air Traffic Control radar at both Wellington and Christchurch airports.

  In cases like this, those who would have you believe that two different groups of eye witnesses were hallucinating at the same time while the movie camera was having a hissy fit, and three different sets of radar just happened to be choosing this same moment to throw a wobbly are themselves stretching credibility to the limit!

  It would be rash to categorize all unexplainable phenomena as "magic." It would be just as wrong to write it all off as "bull$h#t, too.
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Bungi Bill

  Just because you cannot explain it and instead leap to "it must be magic" doesn't mean it's magic.

  That might be a valid point - except at no stage did I make any claims about it being "magic".

  I would sure like to know what it was, though!
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Bungi Bill

  While living in Papua New Guinea, I did observe a number of happenings that cannot be explained by science. These weren't anything to do with poltergeists, witches, ghosts etc - but rather come under the heading of what might be termed "Extra-Sensory Perception" (ESP).

  In particular, the easy ability of so many of its people to locate missing objects was rather awe-inspiring.

  I could go on at length, but one example stood out amongst many others. That happened one Friday afternoon, when I arrived home from carrying out an inspection of the two hydro-electric plants, and discovered that my keys were missing. (I used to carry my key-ring on a Karabiner clip attached to my belt).

  The obvious place to look for missing keys is under, around or on top of the car seat - but a thorough search of those places revealed nothing. So I then retraced my steps of where I had been that afternoon, beginning with the lower power station. When that proved unsuccessful, the station staff alerted the upper power station over the VHF Radio Network that I was on my way up to them.

  On arrival at the top hydro plant, its security guard went straight for my vehicle (a double cab Toyota Hilux 4WD), opened the rear right hand door, reached behind the rear seat, and produced my keys. (Just in case you are wondering, I was the vehicle's only occupant throughout that afternoon, and had never even sat in the rear seat!) The road between the two hydro stations had a very steep section, which could only be negotiated using Four Wheel Drive, and its surface was extremely rough (rough enough to "shake the fillings loose from your teeth!"). What had happened was that after the clip broke from my belt, the key ring hit the floor and was then shaken, bounced and tumbled both backwards and upwards until it lodged itself behind the rear seat.

  The most uncanny thing of all about this was that the security guard said he knew immediately where the key ring was, as soon as he overheard the radio call.

  I am open to suggestions, bu this and similar events in PNG have left me seriously wondering about Extra Sensory Perception!
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  A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

  very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

  and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

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  Bungi Bill

  Diogenesister,

  Very well summed up!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  Hi Zeb,

  The bloody bastards thought they had that one covered, too.

  An extract from the Watchtower of 15th August 1968 ("Why are you looking forward to 1975?") stated:

  This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows , neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36)

  Oh yeah, those that didn't swallow Crazy Fred's story about 1975 were indeed conspicuous by their silence during those years!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  it was 1975 that got the ball rolling

  That pretty much sums up my experience, too!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  Those who didn’t fall for Crazy Fred’s story about 1975 were certainly conspicuous by their silence during the years leading up to it. I don’t recall ever hearing anybody voice any doubts about the WTS official line on that date.